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New Yorkers' Right to Buy Cigarettes Online May NOT Go Up in Smoke
yahoonews.com ^ | 4-18-03

Posted on 04/18/2003 10:32:58 AM PDT by SheLion

BUFFALO, N.Y., April 18 /PRNewswire/ -- New Yorkers who purchase their cigarettes online may be saved from a New York statute which would end Internet tobacco sales to New York consumers. OLTRA (the Online Tobacco Retailers Association), announced that OLTRA and three of its members, along with two New York consumers, filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Western District of New York against Governor George Pataki, New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and Commissioner of Health Antonia Novello, seeking to have New York Public Health Law section 1399-ll declared unconstitutional. The statute was originally scheduled to take effect on November 14, 2000, but was challenged in October 2000 by two cigarette manufacturers who claimed that the statute violated the Commerce Clause of the United States Constitution. The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York ruled in their favor, enjoining enforcement of the statute. The State appealed, and on February 13, 2003, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit reversed the decision of the District Court and upheld the Statute against the legal challenges raised by those plaintiffs.

In the suit filed yesterday, OLTRA, along with an Indian tobacco retailer, online tobacco retailers located outside New York State, and two disabled consumers, have raised new constitutional challenges against the statute. They contend that the statute discriminates against both out-of-state online tobacco retailers and Indian retailers, to the benefit of local convenience stores.

"The New York statute clearly discriminates against our members, some of whom are Indian retailers in the state of New York. Additionally New York residents will be deprived of the freedom to purchase tobacco on the Internet," said Ali Davoudi, President of OLTRA. "OLTRA, as the industry trade association, has promulgated a series of age verification requirements that it is enforcing among its members, including a prohibition against sales to individuals under the age of 21. These requirements are strictly enforced and ensure that the risk of sale of tobacco products by our members to minors is minimized."

About OLTRA:

Online Tobacco Retailers Association (OLTRA) is a non-profit organization founded by concerned online tobacco retailers to address consumer protection and quality assurance issues. For more information on OLTRA, go to www.oltra.org .

For More Information, Contact: Ali Davoudi, President, OLTRA, 713-862-2888 Counsel: James L. Bikoff, Silverberg Goldman & Bikoff, LLP, 202-944-3303


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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1 posted on 04/18/2003 10:32:58 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; Madame Dufarge; ...
PUFF
2 posted on 04/18/2003 10:33:24 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I wish the the best of luck! Fascists must be stopped cold whether they're Democrats or Republicans. Its not about smokers; at issue is the freedom all of us supposedly have to buy things we need or want at the lowest possible price. Its really that simple.
3 posted on 04/18/2003 10:35:14 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SheLion
I believe part of the law also forbade these sellers to use UPS or any carrier to deliver the cigarettes.
4 posted on 04/18/2003 10:35:23 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: SheLion
How can anybody in the US care about people smoking cigarettes when when have traitors like Hillary, Babs Boxer, Tiny Tommy and Nancy bug eye Palosi in leadership positions. It is time to get our priorities straight.
5 posted on 04/18/2003 10:37:28 AM PDT by jetson
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To: goldstategop
I wish the the best of luck! Fascists must be stopped cold whether they're Democrats or Republicans. Its not about smokers; at issue is the freedom all of us supposedly have to buy things we need or want at the lowest possible price. Its really that simple.

It's always been the American Way to shop cheap. At least for the middle classes and below. I bet these idiots can't believe that someone is standing up to them! It's about time, I say!

6 posted on 04/18/2003 10:38:21 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion

Come and get us, copper!

7 posted on 04/18/2003 10:38:27 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: alisasny
I believe part of the law also forbade these sellers to use UPS or any carrier to deliver the cigarettes.

There are LOTS of stuff in brown boxes and brown wrappers UPS delivers. heh!

8 posted on 04/18/2003 10:39:09 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: jetson
How can anybody in the US care about people smoking cigarettes when when have traitors like Hillary, Babs Boxer, Tiny Tommy and Nancy bug eye Palosi in leadership positions. It is time to get our priorities straight.

LOL! You just don't realize how many adult smokers there ARE in here, do you! hehe

And it's people like YOU mentioned above that are the ones trying to take away our rights! Did you forget that smoking is legal?

MY priorities is protecting my rights as a American Citizen, born in the USA!

9 posted on 04/18/2003 10:41:15 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
The day I pay $5.00 for something I can buy for $2.50 is tha day I check myself into the looney bin.

My cigarette taxes aren't as high as NYC's,but they are high enough.

I have become an old lady lawbreaker,thanks to the anti smoking zealots and the states that knuckled under.
10 posted on 04/18/2003 10:57:31 AM PDT by Mears
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To: SheLion
Anybody know where the beloved ATF falls into this mess? If it's the same as moving booze for tax-evasion purposes, there could be some real serious issues at stake here...
11 posted on 04/18/2003 11:04:45 AM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: Mears
I have become an old lady lawbreaker,thanks to the anti smoking zealots and the states that knuckled under.

You and me both, Mears.

As I may have mentioned in the past, my retirement plan is pretty much: sitting on the front porch smoking a butt, with a rifle across my knees.

There may be a lot of cats involved, but first I have to develop a liking for cats, so it's really a work in progress.

The outline is pretty much there, though.

12 posted on 04/18/2003 11:30:21 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
Good to see......... I am smiling big. :-O
13 posted on 04/18/2003 11:30:37 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: alisasny
I believe part of the law also forbade these sellers to use UPS or any carrier to deliver the cigarettes.

That wouldn't surprise me, I have a friend in Toronto, trying to set up a co-operate tobacco farm, as I live in Ottawa, he contacted a carrier, they would not ship tobacco, legal or not.

14 posted on 04/18/2003 11:34:03 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: SheLion
I thought the Constitution delegated to power to regulate interstate commerce to the Congress, not the several States.

/john

15 posted on 04/18/2003 12:56:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (I'm just a cook.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I thought the Constitution delegated to power to regulate interstate commerce to the Congress, not the several States.

Most states are getting desperate for the taxes they no longer are realizing from the smokers. They will try anything to get the cigarette taxes back into their coffers.

But like I always always say: they better start with the online auctions first. LOTS of transaction going through the mail from auctions withOUT collecting any state taxes.

The states are just T'd off because smokers have learned a cheaper way to continue a legal commodity that we so enjoy.

16 posted on 04/19/2003 6:26:57 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
bump
17 posted on 04/19/2003 6:30:51 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: SheLion
Just some background trivia;

Antonia Novello was Surgeon General under President Bush the elder. Her brother in law is Don Novello, AKA: Father Guido Sarducci from "Saturday Night Live."
18 posted on 04/19/2003 6:40:50 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Great Dane
Good to see......... I am smiling big. :-O

ALWAYS great to see YOU, too, Great Dane!!!


19 posted on 04/19/2003 6:52:47 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Mears
I have become an old lady lawbreaker,thanks to the anti smoking zealots and the states that knuckled under.

Your not breaking any laws. Tobacco is a legal commodity, and so is the postal service, UPS and Fed X. Interstate Commerce is the way to go! Fork the state lawmakers and their coffers! They brought this upon themselves.

20 posted on 04/19/2003 6:54:56 AM PDT by SheLion
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